I’m not the one to write in depth stories about tea parties with carebears and popples. I’m just here to wish my baby brother a happy birthday. Hope you are having a great one Jim!
I’m sorry UltraJessica that you don’t seem to have a sense of humour or empathy for people just trying to lead their lives. I guess you won’t mind if we pop around and tell you how to live your life then?
You’ll agree to do what we say if we are in the majority right?
by the way, my dearest Jessica, would you like it if I was to vote on whom you were to marry, too? Or if you were allowed to. Right now I would be inclined to vote “no” to protect your groom-to-be from your simplenarrow-mindedness.
I am not personally attacking anybody or their intelligence because their opinions differ from my own, and I would appreciate it if everybody would return the courtesy.
Just because I am objected to gay marriage does not mean that I hate gays. I really couldn’t care less what people do in their own bedrooms. I simply believe that marriage was instituted by God to be between a man and a woman.
you seem to think you have the right to have a say in my civil rights and personal freedoms? guess again, Jessiekins. My right to determine who I choose to spend my life with has NOTHING to do with you, so butt out, honey… until then you get the respect you deserve, or, in terms you might better relate to, GET IN THE KITCHEN WHERE GOD DECREES YOU WOMENFOLK BELONG AND MAKE ME SOME PIE!
I must say Jessica that although the tone of the criticism you’ve received here is more acidic a tone that I might have chosen, I don’t see anyone attacking your intelligence. You’ve been accused of being narrow-minded and (indirectly) ignorant, but no one has attacked your intelligence.
I assume that 2 of the commenters here, are gay. I think they have the right to be outraged that you don’t think they merit the same rights that you have to have your relationship recognized by society. I do not understand what skin it is off your nose if two gay people who love each other marry. As far as I can tell it affects you exactly not at all. Put yourself in their shoes for a moment, would you be ok with it if Idaho passed a law saying that you and Jim could not get married?
I think it is almost a more backwards opinion if you don’t hate gay people. If you don’t have a problem with people being in a gay relationship, what possible justification do you have for not wanting them to marry? Or do you think, as you said above, that homosexual relationships are purely about what happens in the bedroom?
You didn’t have to comment on that video, there was no reason why you needed to give your opinion on a silly video. I hope you’ll give some consideration to the opposing viewpoints now that you’ve stirred things up and gotten “The Gay” all over my website. EWWWWWWW 
by the way, is your impending marriage simply to be about what you do in the bedroom with your husband-to-be? or is it about more than than? try and wrap your brain around that concept, wouldja, Jessitoodle? It’s a big deal, not just about doin’ it. It’s about commitment, and family, and legal issues, and sharing, and homes, and more than “what people do in their own bedrooms.” On behalf of gays everywhere, we’re thrilled that you don’t hate us. Actually, that’s a bold-faced fib. We couldn’t care less. Just realize that gay people getting married really doesn’t have any impact on your life, but preventing us from getting married will have a big impact on it. Just wait and see.
Marriage is a legal state - and these bans mean that people have less rights because of their sexuality.
You Americans are always going on about your precious rights - but then only if they fit your concept of the “norm” I guess.
Hey now, don’t be attacking “us Americans”. There are plenty of us Americans who don’t believe in limiting people’s personal rights based on their sexuality.
Indirect attacks are still attacks, and I simply commented on a video that you, UltraBob, posted. My opinions are just different than most people who get on here, which tends to spark a discussion. Discussions are an excellent tool for getting to know people because they often put people on their worst behavior. Thankfully, UltraBob, you and I use good old fashioned manners even when we completely disagree.
Thank you for noticing my impeccable gentlemanly behavior *polishes cufflink*
That being said, no one directly OR indirectly attacked your intelligence. They called you narrow-minded and ignorant. No one called you stupid.
Can we move on to the part where you explain how your acceptance of homosexual relationships and your anti gay marriage stance live side-by-side in harmony?
now was I less than civil? shame on me, that must be because I am less than a full human being or something.
You can dress up your ugly words as purty as you like - your opinion is still wrong and narrow minded.
Bob:
Please correct me if I am wrong, but don’t Barrack Obama and UltraJessica have the exact same position on gay marriage?
In all of your postings I missed the one describing Obama as “narrow-minded” and “ignorant”?
Billy,
I’m a bit confused about the name, is this indeed my cousin in Cheyenne seeming to have forgotten how his name is spelled, or is this an imposter, copying my cousin down to his e-mail and IP addresses?
Given that Barack Obama opposed proposition 8 I think it is clear that he and UltraJessica do not have the same views on it. Even if they did however, that would be strawman argument and here’s why:
No one on either side or at any point during this discussion or the discussion about the presidential election identified the candidates stands on gay marriage as a deciding factor in their decision of who to vote for for president. This is with good reason: both stated personal opposition to gay marriage.
I never claimed to agree with Barack Obama on everything, I obviously disagree with him on gay marriage to some degree.
As for my missing post calling Barack Obama narrow-minded and ignorant:
First, I didn’t describe Jessica as narrow-minded or ignorant, those were other commenters.
Second, Barack Obama has stated in much more detail what his position is on gay marriage. Namely that he personally opposes gay marriage, but strongly supports civil unions giving the same rights as marriage to gay unions. He believes that the gay marriage question should be left to the states, but expressed his personal opposition to proposition 8 as divisive and discriminatory. Jessica has chosen to weigh in on this very emotional topic, but has declined to provide much in the way of detail. Naturally this results in a number of angry responses, and I have encouraged Jessica to explain her views more completely.
I think marriages should be abolished by all states and non-religious civil unions made the requirement for all couples, straight and gay, who want to have the legal rights of a couple. If people wish to have the blessing of a church marriage, that is fine and churches can decide for themselves about the gay issue.
To deny people’s government-granted legal rights because a majority God declares abominations (homosexuality, having a shell, etc) seems totally wrong. Separation of church and state is a fundamental principle the US is founded on. I think it is best to keep religion out of my government and my non-religious life.
Is Jessi-poo going to elaborate on her position, or, really, her lack thereof? Or is she going to continue to use the classic and ever-so-stale tactics of diversions like complaining of being picked upon and sending other people to fight her battles? This is degenerating into a really bad cliché.
In Jessica’s defense, I am confident that she didn’t “send” Billy in to defend her.
I have that pic on my frige...Happy Birthday Jimbone!